Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem

Pak Husni,

Bagaimana coding AFL utk tick nya. Jika saya ingin scan Open price > 2
tick di atas Close kemaren.

Thanks.
Irwan

On 6/29/11, yogha sam <yogasampurno@gmail.com> wrote:
> hehe,, mirip pertanyaan saya yang dulu donk pak wisnu,,
> bahkan seharusnya position score pun yang dipakai kalau dalam
> realtime/intraday (dan dalam backtest) adalah ref -1 ya
> kalau solusi gampang buat saya adalah memakai 2 afl, satu untuk data
> EOD, satu lagi digunakan dalam realtime/intraday trading.
>
> @pa husni: fungsi baris ini untuk apa ya pak?
> BuySellBar = Flip( Buy , Sell )
>
> @pa RG: yang diubah dibagian plot nya saja pak, untuk definisi
> upfractal jangan diubah-ubah
>
> On 6/28/11, Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Saya malah kaget kok pakai definisi fractalnya begitu.. Terus baru ingat,
>> rupanya waktu itu ada permintaan untuk menguji sistem yang dijual belasan
>> juta itu... Huahaha, jangan diterusin.. nanti jadi ribut.. :D
>>
>> Kembali ke bias. Yes.
>>
>> Sebaiknya seluruh logic qualifiers, menggunakan nilai fractal kemarin,
>> Ref(UpFractal, -1) dan seterusnya. Kalau perlu visual, plot dengan logika
>> sama.
>>
>> Salam.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Rachmat Guntur
>> <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Pagi pak Wisnu,
>>>
>>> iya, itu kode aslinya begini pak, saya ambil dr QTS BO
>>>
>>> UpFractal= ValueWhen(
>>> (Ref(H,-2) >= Ref(H, -3)) AND
>>> (Ref(H,-2) >= Ref(H, -1)) AND
>>> (Ref(H,-2) >= H), Ref(H,-2));
>>>
>>> kemudian saya maen ganti aja angka -2 nya jadi -1 :D. salah ya pak?
>>>
>>> jadi berarti ufbreaknya yg diganti jadi ref(UF,-1) ya pak? betul ga ya?
>>>
>>> pardon my shallow understanding pak :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/28/11, Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Kode anda berbeda dengan standard William's Fractal:
>>> > http://www.amibroker.com/library/detail.php?id=1104
>>> >
>>> > UpFractal= ValueWhen(
>>> > (Ref(H,-2) > Ref(H, -4)) AND
>>> > (Ref(H,-2) > Ref(H, -3)) AND
>>> > (Ref(H,-2) > Ref(H, -1)) AND
>>> > (Ref(H,-2) > H), Ref(H,-2));
>>> >
>>> > Tetapi anyway, that's beside the point. Anda bisa pakai kode apa saja,
>>> > selama logicnya benar, dan well tested.
>>> >
>>> > Intinya begini, kode fractal original punya dua bias:
>>> >
>>> > 1. Plottingnya biasanya dibuat begini: Plot(Ref(UpFractal, 2)... dst.
>>> Kalau
>>> > logika entry/exit dibangun diatas line ini, sudah pasti future leak.
>>> >
>>> > 2. Kemudian untuk menghindari confusion di hari ke 5 sejak terbentuk
>>> fractal
>>> > (hari ke 2 sejak top/bottom), jangan gunakan nilai fractal hari ini
>>> > tapi
>>> > gunakan Ref(UpFractal, -1);
>>> >
>>> > Kalau mau visual confirmation, sekalian saja plottingnya diganti
>>> > Plot(Ref(UpFractal, -1),... dst.
>>> >
>>> > Salam.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Rachmat Guntur
>>> > <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> pagi pak Wisnu, berarti codingnya jadi begini ya pak?
>>> >>
>>> >> UpFractal= ValueWhen(
>>> >> (Ref(H,-1) >= Ref(H, -3)) AND
>>> >> (Ref(H,-1) >= Ref(H, -2)) AND
>>> >> (Ref(H,-1) >= H), Ref(H,-1));
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> thanks in advance
>>> >>
>>> >> On 6/28/11, Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Kelupaan, setelah diplot kasar begitu, selalu gunakan fractal
>>> >> > kemarin
>>> -
>>> >> > Ref(UpFractal,-1), sebagai kondisi/qualifier, untuk menghindari
>>> >> > confusion
>>> >> di
>>> >> > hari ke dua (atau ke-5 dihitung sejak fractal terbentuk).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sebenarnya menggunakan kondisi kemarin adalah salah satu tips
>>> >> > robustness,
>>> >> > tidak hanya untuk fractal saja. Almost anything, kecuali HIGH dan
>>> >> > LOW
>>> >> today
>>> >> > saja. Contoh filter liquidity, saya selalu pakai nilai kemarin
>>> >> > instead
>>> >> > of
>>> >> > today.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Saya tidak tahu apakah ini abuse terhadap teorinya fractal.
>>> >> > Sepertinya
>>> >> sih
>>> >> > iya.. Pak Eko pawangnya disini.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Salam.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Rachmat Guntur
>>> >> > <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hah, segampang itu ya pak?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> coba saya liat2 dolo aflnya buaya... mmg ajib n mematikan komennya
>>> >> >> master yg udah menguasai sgala sisi sistem ini. saya ganti jd
>>> >> >> fractal
>>> >> >> jg ahh resist line saya
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> thanks so much pakkk
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On 6/27/11, Wisnu Wijayanta <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> > Tanpa backward shift?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Di plotting fractal, hilangkan angka 2 atau berapapun disitu.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Awas, gambarnya jadi jelek.. Hehe..
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> > From: Rachmat Guntur <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> > Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:49:29
>>> >> >> > To: <amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>> >> >> > Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Nahh ini nihh jawabannya, berarti betul mata saya dulu ga salah,
>>> >> >> > fractalnya berubah bentuk, makanya saya pakai support resist line
>>> >> >> > biasa, mirip seperti 10DBO yg kemarin dikasi, kl blh diinfo pak
>>> >> >> > url
>>> >> >> > coding yg plot tanpa backward shift? thx pak
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > "2. Fractal dalam kode aslinya, forward looking. Jadi kalau buy
>>> based
>>> >> on
>>> >> >> > original fractal line, pasti ada repaint. Kalau mau pakai
>>> >> >> > fractal,
>>> >> plot
>>> >> >> > tanpa backward shift. Jelek gambarnya sih, tapi aktual."
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On 6/27/11, Wisnu Wijayanta <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> Seneng saya pada rajin belajar! Bravo!
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Jangan lupa exercise!
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Hari ini saya tidak bisa ke gym, terus iseng, rupanya saya bisa
>>> >> >> >> ganti
>>> >> >> >> latihan cardio saya pakai naik turun tangga rumah, 3 meteran 120
>>> >> >> >> kali
>>> >> >> >> bolak-balik, 30 menit. Rupanya my Polar heart monitor, register
>>> 500
>>> >> >> kcal,
>>> >> >> >> 145-160 bpm. Lumayan.. :)
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Now, belajar:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> 1. Starting equity val has little to do with result metrics.
>>> >> >> >> Usahakan
>>> >> >> >> pakai
>>> >> >> >> angka kapital aktual kita masing2.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> 2. Fractal dalam kode aslinya, forward looking. Jadi kalau buy
>>> based
>>> >> on
>>> >> >> >> original fractal line, pasti ada repaint. Kalau mau pakai
>>> >> >> >> fractal,
>>> >> plot
>>> >> >> >> tanpa backward shift. Jelek gambarnya sih, tapi aktual.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> 3. Signal preparasi itu justru valuable di intraday, selama
>>> logicnya
>>> >> >> >> benar.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Salam belajar!
>>> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >> From: broniscoklat78@gmail.com
>>> >> >> >> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> >> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:57:51
>>> >> >> >> To: <amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>> >> >> >> Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Hmmm sepertinya saya hrs belajar fractal nih, byk bgt penganut
>>> >> fractal
>>> >> >> >> disini, bahkan mentornya jg, hummmm...
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Jd ada ide integrate fractal di afl saya, ngegantiin resist line
>>> >> >> >> saya...kan
>>> >> >> >> sama aja ya... Humm humm....
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Oya, back to topic, coba bsk sy test pak Chis, sygnya hari ini
>>> >> >> >> ga
>>> >> >> >> keluar
>>> >> >> >> sinyal preptobuy sama sekali di afl saya...
>>> >> >> >> .
>>> >> >> >> .
>>> >> >> >> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >> From: Christopher Tahir <chris_tahir@ymail.com>
>>> >> >> >> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> >> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:38:43
>>> >> >> >> To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com<
>>> amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>> >> >> >> Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Pak RG, kalo kita mengerti esensi dari fraktal maka tdk ada
>>> repaint
>>> >> di
>>> >> >> >> fractal pak...
>>> >> >> >> Krn fractal yg di coding itu ga pake future ref shg ga mungkin
>>> >> repaint,
>>> >> >> >> repaint bs terjadi kalo kita pake data yg belum selesai sampai
>>> akhir
>>> >> >> >> masa...
>>> >> >> >> Misal kita update siang hari ada preptobuy, maka ada kemungkinan
>>> >> >> >> kalo
>>> >> >> >> kita
>>> >> >> >> pasang buy itu bakal bs jadi fake buy krn candle hari itu belum
>>> >> selesai
>>> >> >> >> pak...
>>> >> >> >> So saran sy sih kiatin preptobuy wkt tutup marketnya...
>>> >> >> >> Hehhehe
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Best Regards,
>>> >> >> >> Christopher Tahir
>>> >> >> >> Blog: http://ez-stock.blogspot.com
>>> >> >> >> MSN: chris_tahir@hotmail.com
>>> >> >> >> YM: chris_tahir@ymail.com
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> PS. Please forgive me for any mis-typing in the e-mail...:)
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Jun 27, 2011, at 8:16 PM, broniscoklat78@gmail.com wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> Betul pak, pak Husni pakai fractal ya pak? Itu tergantung
>>> >> >> >>> setting
>>> >> >> >>> fractalnya bgmn, dulu sy pernah kutak2 parameternya, tp pak
>>> >> >> >>> Timur
>>> >> skr
>>> >> >> >>> mlh
>>> >> >> >>> lbh canggih lagi, param fractalnya bisa lgsg diganti di window
>>> >> >> >>> parameter,
>>> >> >> >>> ga usah manual ke afl.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Sepertinya semua trend follower sdh harus masuk ke BMTR hari
>>> >> >> >>> ini
>>> >> pak,
>>> >> >> >>> karena dia sdh break 21 days Highnya. Walau closenya ternyata
>>> masuk
>>> >> lg
>>> >> >> >>> dibawah resist.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Cuma itu pak, sy lg kesulitan kehilangan preptobuy saya :(, hr
>>> ini
>>> >> >> malah
>>> >> >> >>> buynya si BMTR hilang.... Harusnya minimal msh ada preptobuy
>>> skr...
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Saya kawatirnya sih future leak or barpaint pak, tp sdh sy
>>> >> >> >>> pelototin
>>> >> >> >>> ga
>>> >> >> >>> sih. Pak Husni pernah perhatiin ga pak kl fractal jg bisa
>>> >> >> >>> berubah
>>> >> loh
>>> >> >> :)
>>> >> >> >>> ga tau jg sih kl pak Husni sdh dpt update dr pak Timur shg sdh
>>> >> >> >>> diperbaiki
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Thx
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> From: "Husni" <husni.gumilang@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> >>> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> >>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:58:49 +0700
>>> >> >> >>> To: <amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>> >> >> >>> ReplyTo: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> >>> Subject: RE: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Kalau di tempat saya , tgl 24 BMTR dapat PrepToBuy
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> <image002.png>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Dan hari ini dapat BUY dgn ENTRY PRICE yg sama di 860
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> <image003.png>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Tapi saya gak masuk, karena tadi masih di perjalanan pulang
>>> >> >> >>> dari
>>> >> >> >>> vacation
>>> >> >> >>> …he he he
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Salam belajar,
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Husni
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> From: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> >>> [mailto:amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rachmat
>>> >> Guntur
>>> >> >> >>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:35 PM
>>> >> >> >>> To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Malam pak Wisnu,
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> sayangnya kasusnya ga gitu pak, kasusnya hari ini di BMTR,
>>> >> >> >>> adxnya
>>> >> sdh
>>> >> >> >>> naik dari bbr hari yg lalu & pdi mdi sdh golden cross dr bbrp
>>> hari
>>> >> >> >>> lalu,
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> nahh indikator satunya, RSI, baru golden cross hari ini pak,
>>> >> >> >>> tapi
>>> >> >> >>> begitu indi ini goldencross sinyal preptobuynya malah hilang...
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> dulu buaya lucunya pak Timur beberapa kali sy lihat dgn mata
>>> >> >> >>> sendiri
>>> >> >> >>> jg berubah bentuk fractal atasnya, makanya saya liat ada bbrp
>>> >> >> >>> yg
>>> >> lolos
>>> >> >> >>> ga keluar sinyal buynya walau breakout. tapi saya ga punya
>>> >> >> >>> buaya
>>> >> lucu
>>> >> >> >>> pak Timur yg terbaru, jadi saya blm tau masalah itu masih ada
>>> >> >> >>> ga,
>>> >> dan
>>> >> >> >>> pemecahannya apa?
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> saya curiga masalahnya di kondisi buy sy pak, selain jkse
>>> uptrend,
>>> >> >> >>> saya jg ada 2 kondisi buy lain, dan sepertinya ini yg bikin
>>> >> preptobuy
>>> >> >> >>> ngilang. jalan yg saya tempuh sekarang, saya hilangkan dulu deh
>>> >> >> >>> kondisi buy saya selain jkse uptrend.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Sistem saya mmg jadinya fragile lagi begitu dihadapkan ke whole
>>> >> >> >>> population jkse, tapi gpp deh, yg penting kan sistemnya ga cuma
>>> >> bagus
>>> >> >> >>> di report tapi bener2 bisa dipake real.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> CAR/MDDnya turun, tp gpp dahh, yg penting max drawdownnya sy
>>> masih
>>> >> >> >>> bisa terima n annual returnnya masih bagus.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> jadi gini pak, ini hipotesa saya, bsk waktu go live coba saya
>>> >> >> >>> cek
>>> >> lagi
>>> >> >> :
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> kondisibuy = kondisi1 AND kondisi2 AND kondisi3;
>>> >> >> >>> kondisiprep = kondisi1 AND (kondisi2 OR kondisi3);
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> preptobuy = (buy - bbrp tick) AND kondisiprep;
>>> >> >> >>> buy = buy AND kondisibuy;
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> ada saran pak Wisnu & yg lainnya?
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> oya, saya jalan2 ke negara tetangga, ternyata Quantitative mrk
>>> >> >> >>> berkembang bgt, kali2 ada yg jd keluar idenya mengembangkan
>>> sistem
>>> >> apa
>>> >> >> >>> utk QTS, ini saya kasi link workshop mrk, workshop mrk berhari2
>>> dan
>>> >> >> >>> ada bagian yg khusus membahas contoh2 sistem QTS ini paks
>>> >> >> >>> dari daftar isinya saja spertinya sdh bisa dibayangin aflnya
>>> >> >> >>> seperti
>>> >> >> >>> apa, tapi cape ahh develop afl baru... sy mau praktek saja
>>> >> >> >>> skr...
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> ini linknya :
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> http://www.ntusgxcfe.ntu.edu.sg/ATC-TSD/ATC-TSD1.html
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> thanks
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> On 6/27/11, Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>> > Kemungkinannya bisa banyak sekali, tetapi barangkali ini..
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > Kalau kita sedang trendfollowing, sistem akan sering ketemu
>>> >> >> >>> > secondary-tertiary buy points dan seterusnya. Titik2 ini
>>> >> >> >>> > perfectly
>>> >> >> >>> > MATCH
>>> >> >> >>> > dengan buy condition/logic kita.
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > Tetapi:
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > 1. Standard backtest HANYA akan menggunakan hanya BUY signal
>>> yang
>>> >> >> >>> > pertama,
>>> >> >> >>> > sebagai entry point sesuai dengan aturan max open position,
>>> >> position
>>> >> >> >>> > size,
>>> >> >> >>> > dan position score.
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > 2. Apalagi ditambah dengan EXcess REMoval.
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > Jadi:
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > Kesalahan yang umum ditemui, signal preparasi dibuat
>>> >> >> >>> > sederhana,
>>> >> >> >>> > memberi
>>> >> >> >>> > tahu
>>> >> >> >>> > kita ketika mendekati buy points, tetapi TIDAK
>>> MEMPERTIMBANGKAN,
>>> >> >> >>> > apakah
>>> >> >> >>> > sudah ada buy point sebelumnya atau tidak - yang masih aktif,
>>> >> belum
>>> >> >> >>> > SELL.
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > Sehingga bisa kejadiannya bisa begini, signal preparasi
>>> >> menunjukkan
>>> >> >> >>> > kita
>>> >> >> >>> > buy
>>> >> >> >>> > point baru (tetapi sistem sudah ada buy point aktif
>>> sebelumnya).
>>> >> >> >>> > Ketika
>>> >> >> >>> > harga melewati buy price point, signal preparasi HILANG,
>>> >> >> >>> > tetapi
>>> >> >> >>> > TIDAK
>>> >> >> >>> > DIGANTIKAN oleh BUY. Karena sistem masih mencatat, MESTINYA
>>> sudah
>>> >> IN
>>> >> >> >>> > POSITION jauh-jauh hari sebelumnya di buy point sebelumnya.
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > Solusi:
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > 1. Konsep. Secara sistem apa yang anda inginkan? Anda ingin
>>> masuk
>>> >> di
>>> >> >> >>> > setiap
>>> >> >> >>> > buy points? Kalau ya, remove EXREM, dan gunakan
>>> SetBacktestMode(
>>> >> >> >>> > backtestRegularRaw ); - silahkan dibaca definisinya. Intinya
>>> kali
>>> >> >> >>> > ini
>>> >> >> >>> > backtest akan masuk DISETIAP buy points, selama semua aturan
>>> >> >> >>> > terpenuhi.
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > 2. Kalau anda hanya ingin masuk SEKALI di awal (less hectic),
>>> >> >> >>> > gunakan
>>> >> >> >>> > tambahan line: PrepToBuy=ExRem(PrepToBuy,Sell); - artinya
>>> signal
>>> >> >> >>> > preparasi,
>>> >> >> >>> > hanya akan AKTIF satu kali. Ketemu SELL, baru aktif lagi,
>>> sekali.
>>> >> >> >>> > Begitu
>>> >> >> >>> > seterusnya. PrepToBuy nya harus punya kondisi yang persis
>>> >> >> >>> > sama
>>> >> >> >>> > dengan
>>> >> >> >>> > BUY -
>>> >> >> >>> > cuma kurang beberapa tick, supaya tidak mengundang masalah
>>> >> >> >>> > baru
>>> >> >> (misal
>>> >> >> >>> > muncul PrepToBuy tapi di market buruk yang tidak akan
>>> terkonversi
>>> >> >> jadi
>>> >> >> >>> > BUY
>>> >> >> >>> > anyway, disini jadi masalah).
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > Salam belajar.
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Rachmat Guntur
>>> >> >> >>> > <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> Halo paks,
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> saya baru mengalami delicate problem nih, penyelesaian
>>> >> >> >>> >> praktisnya
>>> >> >> >>> >> bgmn
>>> >> >> >>> >> ya?
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> kemarin malam saya otomatic order di preptobuy, kemudian
>>> >> >> >>> >> hari
>>> >> >> >>> >> ini
>>> >> >> >>> >> saya
>>> >> >> >>> >> baru liat preptobuy saya ngilang, sampai jam 11, masih ada
>>> >> >> tulisannya
>>> >> >> >>> >> preptobuy di explorer saya, jadi saya tinggal pergi kerja.
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> afterlunch saya cek di bb, harga benar naik, jadi seharusnya
>>> >> >> >>> >> kondisi
>>> >> >> >>> >> preptobuy saya terpenuhi jadi buy.
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> begitu saya pulang, saya cek, boro2 jadi buy, preptobuy nya
>>> aja
>>> >> >> >>> >> ngilang dari explorer saya, pdhl kondisinya terpenuhi, tapi
>>> >> seperti
>>> >> >> >>> >> terskip.
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> Maksud saya ter skip, di buy saya pakai campuran 2 kondisi
>>> >> >> indikator,
>>> >> >> >>> >> bila indikator A sdh golden cross, indikator B baru
>>> >> >> >>> >> mendekat,
>>> >> maka
>>> >> >> >>> >> preptobuy, bila salah satu sdh goldencross bbrp bar lalu,sdg
>>> >> >> >>> >> satunya
>>> >> >> >>> >> baru goldencross, maka buy keluar hari ini, tapi sepertinya
>>> >> >> amibroker
>>> >> >> >>> >> kadang melihatnya begitu indikator kedua goldencross hari
>>> >> >> >>> >> ini,
>>> >> buy
>>> >> >> >>> >> nya
>>> >> >> >>> >> seharusnya kemarin, tapi karena ga bar painting, sinyal buy
>>> nya
>>> >> ter
>>> >> >> >>> >> skip....
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> di Fractal saya jg sempat melihat hal yg sama, bentuk
>>> >> >> >>> >> fractal
>>> >> >> atasnya
>>> >> >> >>> >> berubah, makanya sekadang saya liat walau sdh fractal break
>>> tapi
>>> >> >> >>> >> sinyal buy ga keluar, karena bentuk fractal berubah, sinyal
>>> >> buynya
>>> >> >> >>> >> malah sdh harus keluar dr bbrp bar lalu,
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> smoga yg saya tulis kebayang....
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> itu fix problemnya gmana ya pak?
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> thanks in advance
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> On 6/27/11, Rachmat Guntur <broniscoklat78@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>> >> > Wahh makasih pak Wisnu buat bocorannya :)
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> > nanti coba saya terapkan & backtest
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> > skr lagi coba nyetir sistem saya dulu nih pak, market lagi
>>> >> >> pullback
>>> >> >> >>> >> > ya
>>> >> >> >>> >> btw
>>> >> >> >>> >> > :(
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >> > On 6/27/11, Wisnu Wijayanta <wisnu.working@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Perlu disesuaikan antara pilihan strategi dengan
>>> ekspektasi.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Untuk riding, yang anda bilang high cholesterol stocks,
>>> sudah
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> pernah
>>> >> >> >>> >> saya
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> katakan cuma bisa ditangkap dengan dua cara, beli mahal
>>> atau
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> beli
>>> >> >> >>> >> bandar.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Setelah itu, seluruh scoring profile harus trade into the
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> strength,
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> contohnya ROC.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Tuh, bocoran lagi.. :)
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Salam.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> From: broniscoklat78@gmail.com
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:54:09
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> To: AmiBroker Milist<amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Subject: [Komunitas AmiBroker] Re: CONFIRMATION - QTS
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> WORKSHOP
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> BATCH
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> IV
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Mantabb nihh workshopnya
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Always pick up something new & banyak bocoran disana sini
>>> kl
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> teliti
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> :p
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> n
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> bikin begadang ulik2 hasil backtest n optimasi. Apalg
>>> >> dioleh2in
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> data
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> yahoo
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> yg sdh cakep dr pak Dendo :D
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Kali ini yg ikut workshop jg unik2. Dpt insight dr dunia
>>> >> trader
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> gambler
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> sgala n ktemu jagoan coding afl, pulang2 nambah
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> linregslope
>>> >> afl.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Thx
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> pak
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Chris :)
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Pak Wisnu, kl ada QTS degree 2 yg bahas jeroan trading
>>> sistem
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> scr
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> lbh
>>> >> >> >>> >> dlm
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> lagi, sy booking seatnya 1 ya, msh blm ketemu qualifier
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> utk
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> eliminate
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> saham2
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> yg candlenya panjang2 gajebo dlm sehari nihh pak, ituu
>>> saham
>>> >> >> penuh
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> kolestrol... :(
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Begitu ditabrakin ke all populasi ihsg, afl saya
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> %win:%lossnya
>>> >> >> msh
>>> >> >> >>> >> stabil
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> tapi CAR/MDDnya drop jadi 1...any hints pak? :)
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Thx
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> From: Dendo <dendo@integrity.co.id>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:29:52
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> To: AmiBroker Milist<amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Subject: CONFIRMATION - QTS WORKSHOP BATCH IV
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Halo,
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Terimakasih kepada teman-teman yang sudah melakukan
>>> >> pendaftaran
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> *QTS
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Workshop Batch ke IV*.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Dengan ini diberitahukan**pelatihan akan dilaksanakan di:
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> *HOTEL AKMANI*
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> *Jl. KH. Wahid Hasyim 91 Jakarta*
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> *(Dekat Sarinah Thamrin)*
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> *Ruang : TUSCANY*
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> *Lantai : Mezzanine (M)*
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> *Waktu: 09:30 s.d 17:00*
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Dibawah ini saya kirimkan kembali peta HOTEL AKMANI.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Terimakasih atas perhatiannya. Sampai bertemu besok.
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Salam, Dendo
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> M: 08159304868, BB: 234C7257, E:
>>> amibrokerfreak@yahoo.co.id
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Data
>>> >> &
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Pelatihan
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 |
>>> >> e-mail:
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Data
>>> >> &
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Pelatihan
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 |
>>> >> e-mail:
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------
>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >>> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday
>>> >> >> >>> >> Data
>>> &
>>> >> >> >>> >> Pelatihan
>>> >> >> >>> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 |
>>> e-mail:
>>> >> >> >>> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>> >> >> >>> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>>> >> >> >>> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>>> >> >> >>> >>
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>>> >> >> >>> >
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>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > ------------------------------------
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>>> >> >> Pelatihan
>>> >> >> > silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>>> >> >> > amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
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>>> >> >> > Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>>> >> >> Pelatihan
>>> >> >> > silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>>> >> >> > amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>> >> >> > http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
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>>> >> >> ------------------------------------
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>>> >> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>>> >> Pelatihan
>>> >> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>>> >> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
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>>> >>
>>> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>>> Pelatihan
>>> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>>> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
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