Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem

hehe,, mirip pertanyaan saya yang dulu donk pak wisnu,,
bahkan seharusnya position score pun yang dipakai kalau dalam
realtime/intraday (dan dalam backtest) adalah ref -1 ya
kalau solusi gampang buat saya adalah memakai 2 afl, satu untuk data
EOD, satu lagi digunakan dalam realtime/intraday trading.

@pa husni: fungsi baris ini untuk apa ya pak?
BuySellBar = Flip( Buy , Sell )

@pa RG: yang diubah dibagian plot nya saja pak, untuk definisi
upfractal jangan diubah-ubah

On 6/28/11, Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
> Saya malah kaget kok pakai definisi fractalnya begitu.. Terus baru ingat,
> rupanya waktu itu ada permintaan untuk menguji sistem yang dijual belasan
> juta itu... Huahaha, jangan diterusin.. nanti jadi ribut.. :D
>
> Kembali ke bias. Yes.
>
> Sebaiknya seluruh logic qualifiers, menggunakan nilai fractal kemarin,
> Ref(UpFractal, -1) dan seterusnya. Kalau perlu visual, plot dengan logika
> sama.
>
> Salam.
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Rachmat Guntur
> <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Pagi pak Wisnu,
>>
>> iya, itu kode aslinya begini pak, saya ambil dr QTS BO
>>
>> UpFractal= ValueWhen(
>> (Ref(H,-2) >= Ref(H, -3)) AND
>> (Ref(H,-2) >= Ref(H, -1)) AND
>> (Ref(H,-2) >= H), Ref(H,-2));
>>
>> kemudian saya maen ganti aja angka -2 nya jadi -1 :D. salah ya pak?
>>
>> jadi berarti ufbreaknya yg diganti jadi ref(UF,-1) ya pak? betul ga ya?
>>
>> pardon my shallow understanding pak :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/28/11, Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Kode anda berbeda dengan standard William's Fractal:
>> > http://www.amibroker.com/library/detail.php?id=1104
>> >
>> > UpFractal= ValueWhen(
>> > (Ref(H,-2) > Ref(H, -4)) AND
>> > (Ref(H,-2) > Ref(H, -3)) AND
>> > (Ref(H,-2) > Ref(H, -1)) AND
>> > (Ref(H,-2) > H), Ref(H,-2));
>> >
>> > Tetapi anyway, that's beside the point. Anda bisa pakai kode apa saja,
>> > selama logicnya benar, dan well tested.
>> >
>> > Intinya begini, kode fractal original punya dua bias:
>> >
>> > 1. Plottingnya biasanya dibuat begini: Plot(Ref(UpFractal, 2)... dst.
>> Kalau
>> > logika entry/exit dibangun diatas line ini, sudah pasti future leak.
>> >
>> > 2. Kemudian untuk menghindari confusion di hari ke 5 sejak terbentuk
>> fractal
>> > (hari ke 2 sejak top/bottom), jangan gunakan nilai fractal hari ini tapi
>> > gunakan Ref(UpFractal, -1);
>> >
>> > Kalau mau visual confirmation, sekalian saja plottingnya diganti
>> > Plot(Ref(UpFractal, -1),... dst.
>> >
>> > Salam.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Rachmat Guntur
>> > <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> pagi pak Wisnu, berarti codingnya jadi begini ya pak?
>> >>
>> >> UpFractal= ValueWhen(
>> >> (Ref(H,-1) >= Ref(H, -3)) AND
>> >> (Ref(H,-1) >= Ref(H, -2)) AND
>> >> (Ref(H,-1) >= H), Ref(H,-1));
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> thanks in advance
>> >>
>> >> On 6/28/11, Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Kelupaan, setelah diplot kasar begitu, selalu gunakan fractal kemarin
>> -
>> >> > Ref(UpFractal,-1), sebagai kondisi/qualifier, untuk menghindari
>> >> > confusion
>> >> di
>> >> > hari ke dua (atau ke-5 dihitung sejak fractal terbentuk).
>> >> >
>> >> > Sebenarnya menggunakan kondisi kemarin adalah salah satu tips
>> >> > robustness,
>> >> > tidak hanya untuk fractal saja. Almost anything, kecuali HIGH dan LOW
>> >> today
>> >> > saja. Contoh filter liquidity, saya selalu pakai nilai kemarin
>> >> > instead
>> >> > of
>> >> > today.
>> >> >
>> >> > Saya tidak tahu apakah ini abuse terhadap teorinya fractal.
>> >> > Sepertinya
>> >> sih
>> >> > iya.. Pak Eko pawangnya disini.
>> >> >
>> >> > Salam.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Rachmat Guntur
>> >> > <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hah, segampang itu ya pak?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> coba saya liat2 dolo aflnya buaya... mmg ajib n mematikan komennya
>> >> >> master yg udah menguasai sgala sisi sistem ini. saya ganti jd
>> >> >> fractal
>> >> >> jg ahh resist line saya
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks so much pakkk
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 6/27/11, Wisnu Wijayanta <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Tanpa backward shift?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Di plotting fractal, hilangkan angka 2 atau berapapun disitu.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Awas, gambarnya jadi jelek.. Hehe..
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> > From: Rachmat Guntur <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:49:29
>> >> >> > To: <amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >> > Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Nahh ini nihh jawabannya, berarti betul mata saya dulu ga salah,
>> >> >> > fractalnya berubah bentuk, makanya saya pakai support resist line
>> >> >> > biasa, mirip seperti 10DBO yg kemarin dikasi, kl blh diinfo pak
>> >> >> > url
>> >> >> > coding yg plot tanpa backward shift? thx pak
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "2. Fractal dalam kode aslinya, forward looking. Jadi kalau buy
>> based
>> >> on
>> >> >> > original fractal line, pasti ada repaint. Kalau mau pakai fractal,
>> >> plot
>> >> >> > tanpa backward shift. Jelek gambarnya sih, tapi aktual."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 6/27/11, Wisnu Wijayanta <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> Seneng saya pada rajin belajar! Bravo!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Jangan lupa exercise!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hari ini saya tidak bisa ke gym, terus iseng, rupanya saya bisa
>> >> >> >> ganti
>> >> >> >> latihan cardio saya pakai naik turun tangga rumah, 3 meteran 120
>> >> >> >> kali
>> >> >> >> bolak-balik, 30 menit. Rupanya my Polar heart monitor, register
>> 500
>> >> >> kcal,
>> >> >> >> 145-160 bpm. Lumayan.. :)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Now, belajar:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 1. Starting equity val has little to do with result metrics.
>> >> >> >> Usahakan
>> >> >> >> pakai
>> >> >> >> angka kapital aktual kita masing2.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 2. Fractal dalam kode aslinya, forward looking. Jadi kalau buy
>> based
>> >> on
>> >> >> >> original fractal line, pasti ada repaint. Kalau mau pakai
>> >> >> >> fractal,
>> >> plot
>> >> >> >> tanpa backward shift. Jelek gambarnya sih, tapi aktual.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 3. Signal preparasi itu justru valuable di intraday, selama
>> logicnya
>> >> >> >> benar.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Salam belajar!
>> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> From: broniscoklat78@gmail.com
>> >> >> >> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:57:51
>> >> >> >> To: <amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >> >> Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hmmm sepertinya saya hrs belajar fractal nih, byk bgt penganut
>> >> fractal
>> >> >> >> disini, bahkan mentornya jg, hummmm...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Jd ada ide integrate fractal di afl saya, ngegantiin resist line
>> >> >> >> saya...kan
>> >> >> >> sama aja ya... Humm humm....
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Oya, back to topic, coba bsk sy test pak Chis, sygnya hari ini ga
>> >> >> >> keluar
>> >> >> >> sinyal preptobuy sama sekali di afl saya...
>> >> >> >> .
>> >> >> >> .
>> >> >> >> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> From: Christopher Tahir <chris_tahir@ymail.com>
>> >> >> >> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:38:43
>> >> >> >> To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com<
>> amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >> >> Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Pak RG, kalo kita mengerti esensi dari fraktal maka tdk ada
>> repaint
>> >> di
>> >> >> >> fractal pak...
>> >> >> >> Krn fractal yg di coding itu ga pake future ref shg ga mungkin
>> >> repaint,
>> >> >> >> repaint bs terjadi kalo kita pake data yg belum selesai sampai
>> akhir
>> >> >> >> masa...
>> >> >> >> Misal kita update siang hari ada preptobuy, maka ada kemungkinan
>> >> >> >> kalo
>> >> >> >> kita
>> >> >> >> pasang buy itu bakal bs jadi fake buy krn candle hari itu belum
>> >> selesai
>> >> >> >> pak...
>> >> >> >> So saran sy sih kiatin preptobuy wkt tutup marketnya...
>> >> >> >> Hehhehe
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Best Regards,
>> >> >> >> Christopher Tahir
>> >> >> >> Blog: http://ez-stock.blogspot.com
>> >> >> >> MSN: chris_tahir@hotmail.com
>> >> >> >> YM: chris_tahir@ymail.com
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> PS. Please forgive me for any mis-typing in the e-mail...:)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Jun 27, 2011, at 8:16 PM, broniscoklat78@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> Betul pak, pak Husni pakai fractal ya pak? Itu tergantung
>> >> >> >>> setting
>> >> >> >>> fractalnya bgmn, dulu sy pernah kutak2 parameternya, tp pak
>> >> >> >>> Timur
>> >> skr
>> >> >> >>> mlh
>> >> >> >>> lbh canggih lagi, param fractalnya bisa lgsg diganti di window
>> >> >> >>> parameter,
>> >> >> >>> ga usah manual ke afl.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Sepertinya semua trend follower sdh harus masuk ke BMTR hari ini
>> >> pak,
>> >> >> >>> karena dia sdh break 21 days Highnya. Walau closenya ternyata
>> masuk
>> >> lg
>> >> >> >>> dibawah resist.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Cuma itu pak, sy lg kesulitan kehilangan preptobuy saya :(, hr
>> ini
>> >> >> malah
>> >> >> >>> buynya si BMTR hilang.... Harusnya minimal msh ada preptobuy
>> skr...
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Saya kawatirnya sih future leak or barpaint pak, tp sdh sy
>> >> >> >>> pelototin
>> >> >> >>> ga
>> >> >> >>> sih. Pak Husni pernah perhatiin ga pak kl fractal jg bisa
>> >> >> >>> berubah
>> >> loh
>> >> >> :)
>> >> >> >>> ga tau jg sih kl pak Husni sdh dpt update dr pak Timur shg sdh
>> >> >> >>> diperbaiki
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Thx
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> From: "Husni" <husni.gumilang@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >>> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:58:49 +0700
>> >> >> >>> To: <amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >> >>> ReplyTo: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >>> Subject: RE: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Kalau di tempat saya , tgl 24 BMTR dapat PrepToBuy
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> <image002.png>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Dan hari ini dapat BUY dgn ENTRY PRICE yg sama di 860
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> <image003.png>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Tapi saya gak masuk, karena tadi masih di perjalanan pulang dari
>> >> >> >>> vacation
>> >> >> >>> …he he he
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Salam belajar,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Husni
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> From: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >>> [mailto:amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rachmat
>> >> Guntur
>> >> >> >>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:35 PM
>> >> >> >>> To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Malam pak Wisnu,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> sayangnya kasusnya ga gitu pak, kasusnya hari ini di BMTR,
>> >> >> >>> adxnya
>> >> sdh
>> >> >> >>> naik dari bbr hari yg lalu & pdi mdi sdh golden cross dr bbrp
>> hari
>> >> >> >>> lalu,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> nahh indikator satunya, RSI, baru golden cross hari ini pak,
>> >> >> >>> tapi
>> >> >> >>> begitu indi ini goldencross sinyal preptobuynya malah hilang...
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> dulu buaya lucunya pak Timur beberapa kali sy lihat dgn mata
>> >> >> >>> sendiri
>> >> >> >>> jg berubah bentuk fractal atasnya, makanya saya liat ada bbrp yg
>> >> lolos
>> >> >> >>> ga keluar sinyal buynya walau breakout. tapi saya ga punya buaya
>> >> lucu
>> >> >> >>> pak Timur yg terbaru, jadi saya blm tau masalah itu masih ada
>> >> >> >>> ga,
>> >> dan
>> >> >> >>> pemecahannya apa?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> saya curiga masalahnya di kondisi buy sy pak, selain jkse
>> uptrend,
>> >> >> >>> saya jg ada 2 kondisi buy lain, dan sepertinya ini yg bikin
>> >> preptobuy
>> >> >> >>> ngilang. jalan yg saya tempuh sekarang, saya hilangkan dulu deh
>> >> >> >>> kondisi buy saya selain jkse uptrend.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Sistem saya mmg jadinya fragile lagi begitu dihadapkan ke whole
>> >> >> >>> population jkse, tapi gpp deh, yg penting kan sistemnya ga cuma
>> >> bagus
>> >> >> >>> di report tapi bener2 bisa dipake real.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> CAR/MDDnya turun, tp gpp dahh, yg penting max drawdownnya sy
>> masih
>> >> >> >>> bisa terima n annual returnnya masih bagus.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> jadi gini pak, ini hipotesa saya, bsk waktu go live coba saya
>> >> >> >>> cek
>> >> lagi
>> >> >> :
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> kondisibuy = kondisi1 AND kondisi2 AND kondisi3;
>> >> >> >>> kondisiprep = kondisi1 AND (kondisi2 OR kondisi3);
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> preptobuy = (buy - bbrp tick) AND kondisiprep;
>> >> >> >>> buy = buy AND kondisibuy;
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> ada saran pak Wisnu & yg lainnya?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> oya, saya jalan2 ke negara tetangga, ternyata Quantitative mrk
>> >> >> >>> berkembang bgt, kali2 ada yg jd keluar idenya mengembangkan
>> sistem
>> >> apa
>> >> >> >>> utk QTS, ini saya kasi link workshop mrk, workshop mrk berhari2
>> dan
>> >> >> >>> ada bagian yg khusus membahas contoh2 sistem QTS ini paks
>> >> >> >>> dari daftar isinya saja spertinya sdh bisa dibayangin aflnya
>> >> >> >>> seperti
>> >> >> >>> apa, tapi cape ahh develop afl baru... sy mau praktek saja
>> >> >> >>> skr...
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> ini linknya :
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> http://www.ntusgxcfe.ntu.edu.sg/ATC-TSD/ATC-TSD1.html
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> thanks
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On 6/27/11, Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> > Kemungkinannya bisa banyak sekali, tetapi barangkali ini..
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Kalau kita sedang trendfollowing, sistem akan sering ketemu
>> >> >> >>> > secondary-tertiary buy points dan seterusnya. Titik2 ini
>> >> >> >>> > perfectly
>> >> >> >>> > MATCH
>> >> >> >>> > dengan buy condition/logic kita.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Tetapi:
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > 1. Standard backtest HANYA akan menggunakan hanya BUY signal
>> yang
>> >> >> >>> > pertama,
>> >> >> >>> > sebagai entry point sesuai dengan aturan max open position,
>> >> position
>> >> >> >>> > size,
>> >> >> >>> > dan position score.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > 2. Apalagi ditambah dengan EXcess REMoval.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Jadi:
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Kesalahan yang umum ditemui, signal preparasi dibuat
>> >> >> >>> > sederhana,
>> >> >> >>> > memberi
>> >> >> >>> > tahu
>> >> >> >>> > kita ketika mendekati buy points, tetapi TIDAK
>> MEMPERTIMBANGKAN,
>> >> >> >>> > apakah
>> >> >> >>> > sudah ada buy point sebelumnya atau tidak - yang masih aktif,
>> >> belum
>> >> >> >>> > SELL.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Sehingga bisa kejadiannya bisa begini, signal preparasi
>> >> menunjukkan
>> >> >> >>> > kita
>> >> >> >>> > buy
>> >> >> >>> > point baru (tetapi sistem sudah ada buy point aktif
>> sebelumnya).
>> >> >> >>> > Ketika
>> >> >> >>> > harga melewati buy price point, signal preparasi HILANG,
>> >> >> >>> > tetapi
>> >> >> >>> > TIDAK
>> >> >> >>> > DIGANTIKAN oleh BUY. Karena sistem masih mencatat, MESTINYA
>> sudah
>> >> IN
>> >> >> >>> > POSITION jauh-jauh hari sebelumnya di buy point sebelumnya.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Solusi:
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > 1. Konsep. Secara sistem apa yang anda inginkan? Anda ingin
>> masuk
>> >> di
>> >> >> >>> > setiap
>> >> >> >>> > buy points? Kalau ya, remove EXREM, dan gunakan
>> SetBacktestMode(
>> >> >> >>> > backtestRegularRaw ); - silahkan dibaca definisinya. Intinya
>> kali
>> >> >> >>> > ini
>> >> >> >>> > backtest akan masuk DISETIAP buy points, selama semua aturan
>> >> >> >>> > terpenuhi.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > 2. Kalau anda hanya ingin masuk SEKALI di awal (less hectic),
>> >> >> >>> > gunakan
>> >> >> >>> > tambahan line: PrepToBuy=ExRem(PrepToBuy,Sell); - artinya
>> signal
>> >> >> >>> > preparasi,
>> >> >> >>> > hanya akan AKTIF satu kali. Ketemu SELL, baru aktif lagi,
>> sekali.
>> >> >> >>> > Begitu
>> >> >> >>> > seterusnya. PrepToBuy nya harus punya kondisi yang persis sama
>> >> >> >>> > dengan
>> >> >> >>> > BUY -
>> >> >> >>> > cuma kurang beberapa tick, supaya tidak mengundang masalah
>> >> >> >>> > baru
>> >> >> (misal
>> >> >> >>> > muncul PrepToBuy tapi di market buruk yang tidak akan
>> terkonversi
>> >> >> jadi
>> >> >> >>> > BUY
>> >> >> >>> > anyway, disini jadi masalah).
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Salam belajar.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Rachmat Guntur
>> >> >> >>> > <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> Halo paks,
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> saya baru mengalami delicate problem nih, penyelesaian
>> >> >> >>> >> praktisnya
>> >> >> >>> >> bgmn
>> >> >> >>> >> ya?
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> kemarin malam saya otomatic order di preptobuy, kemudian hari
>> >> >> >>> >> ini
>> >> >> >>> >> saya
>> >> >> >>> >> baru liat preptobuy saya ngilang, sampai jam 11, masih ada
>> >> >> tulisannya
>> >> >> >>> >> preptobuy di explorer saya, jadi saya tinggal pergi kerja.
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> afterlunch saya cek di bb, harga benar naik, jadi seharusnya
>> >> >> >>> >> kondisi
>> >> >> >>> >> preptobuy saya terpenuhi jadi buy.
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> begitu saya pulang, saya cek, boro2 jadi buy, preptobuy nya
>> aja
>> >> >> >>> >> ngilang dari explorer saya, pdhl kondisinya terpenuhi, tapi
>> >> seperti
>> >> >> >>> >> terskip.
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> Maksud saya ter skip, di buy saya pakai campuran 2 kondisi
>> >> >> indikator,
>> >> >> >>> >> bila indikator A sdh golden cross, indikator B baru mendekat,
>> >> maka
>> >> >> >>> >> preptobuy, bila salah satu sdh goldencross bbrp bar lalu,sdg
>> >> >> >>> >> satunya
>> >> >> >>> >> baru goldencross, maka buy keluar hari ini, tapi sepertinya
>> >> >> amibroker
>> >> >> >>> >> kadang melihatnya begitu indikator kedua goldencross hari
>> >> >> >>> >> ini,
>> >> buy
>> >> >> >>> >> nya
>> >> >> >>> >> seharusnya kemarin, tapi karena ga bar painting, sinyal buy
>> nya
>> >> ter
>> >> >> >>> >> skip....
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> di Fractal saya jg sempat melihat hal yg sama, bentuk fractal
>> >> >> atasnya
>> >> >> >>> >> berubah, makanya sekadang saya liat walau sdh fractal break
>> tapi
>> >> >> >>> >> sinyal buy ga keluar, karena bentuk fractal berubah, sinyal
>> >> buynya
>> >> >> >>> >> malah sdh harus keluar dr bbrp bar lalu,
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> smoga yg saya tulis kebayang....
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> itu fix problemnya gmana ya pak?
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> thanks in advance
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> On 6/27/11, Rachmat Guntur <broniscoklat78@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> > Wahh makasih pak Wisnu buat bocorannya :)
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> > nanti coba saya terapkan & backtest
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> > skr lagi coba nyetir sistem saya dulu nih pak, market lagi
>> >> >> pullback
>> >> >> >>> >> > ya
>> >> >> >>> >> btw
>> >> >> >>> >> > :(
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> > On 6/27/11, Wisnu Wijayanta <wisnu.working@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Perlu disesuaikan antara pilihan strategi dengan
>> ekspektasi.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Untuk riding, yang anda bilang high cholesterol stocks,
>> sudah
>> >> >> >>> >> >> pernah
>> >> >> >>> >> saya
>> >> >> >>> >> >> katakan cuma bisa ditangkap dengan dua cara, beli mahal
>> atau
>> >> >> >>> >> >> beli
>> >> >> >>> >> bandar.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Setelah itu, seluruh scoring profile harus trade into the
>> >> >> >>> >> >> strength,
>> >> >> >>> >> >> contohnya ROC.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Tuh, bocoran lagi.. :)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Salam.
>> >> >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>> >> >> From: broniscoklat78@gmail.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:54:09
>> >> >> >>> >> >> To: AmiBroker Milist<amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Subject: [Komunitas AmiBroker] Re: CONFIRMATION - QTS
>> >> >> >>> >> >> WORKSHOP
>> >> >> >>> >> >> BATCH
>> >> >> >>> >> >> IV
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Mantabb nihh workshopnya
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Always pick up something new & banyak bocoran disana sini
>> kl
>> >> >> >>> >> >> teliti
>> >> >> >>> >> >> :p
>> >> >> >>> >> >> n
>> >> >> >>> >> >> bikin begadang ulik2 hasil backtest n optimasi. Apalg
>> >> dioleh2in
>> >> >> >>> >> >> data
>> >> >> >>> >> >> yahoo
>> >> >> >>> >> >> yg sdh cakep dr pak Dendo :D
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Kali ini yg ikut workshop jg unik2. Dpt insight dr dunia
>> >> trader
>> >> >> >>> >> >> gambler
>> >> >> >>> >> >> sgala n ktemu jagoan coding afl, pulang2 nambah
>> >> >> >>> >> >> linregslope
>> >> afl.
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Thx
>> >> >> >>> >> >> pak
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Chris :)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Pak Wisnu, kl ada QTS degree 2 yg bahas jeroan trading
>> sistem
>> >> >> >>> >> >> scr
>> >> >> >>> >> >> lbh
>> >> >> >>> >> dlm
>> >> >> >>> >> >> lagi, sy booking seatnya 1 ya, msh blm ketemu qualifier
>> >> >> >>> >> >> utk
>> >> >> >>> >> >> eliminate
>> >> >> >>> >> >> saham2
>> >> >> >>> >> >> yg candlenya panjang2 gajebo dlm sehari nihh pak, ituu
>> saham
>> >> >> penuh
>> >> >> >>> >> >> kolestrol... :(
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Begitu ditabrakin ke all populasi ihsg, afl saya
>> >> >> >>> >> >> %win:%lossnya
>> >> >> msh
>> >> >> >>> >> stabil
>> >> >> >>> >> >> tapi CAR/MDDnya drop jadi 1...any hints pak? :)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Thx
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>> >> >> From: Dendo <dendo@integrity.co.id>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:29:52
>> >> >> >>> >> >> To: AmiBroker Milist<amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Subject: CONFIRMATION - QTS WORKSHOP BATCH IV
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Halo,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Terimakasih kepada teman-teman yang sudah melakukan
>> >> pendaftaran
>> >> >> >>> >> >> *QTS
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Workshop Batch ke IV*.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Dengan ini diberitahukan**pelatihan akan dilaksanakan di:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> *HOTEL AKMANI*
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> *Jl. KH. Wahid Hasyim 91 Jakarta*
>> >> >> >>> >> >> *(Dekat Sarinah Thamrin)*
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> *Ruang : TUSCANY*
>> >> >> >>> >> >> *Lantai : Mezzanine (M)*
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> *Waktu: 09:30 s.d 17:00*
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Dibawah ini saya kirimkan kembali peta HOTEL AKMANI.
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Terimakasih atas perhatiannya. Sampai bertemu besok.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Salam, Dendo
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> M: 08159304868, BB: 234C7257, E:
>> amibrokerfreak@yahoo.co.id
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Data
>> >> &
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Pelatihan
>> >> >> >>> >> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 |
>> >> e-mail:
>> >> >> >>> >> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Data
>> >> &
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Pelatihan
>> >> >> >>> >> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 |
>> >> e-mail:
>> >> >> >>> >> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday
>> >> >> >>> >> Data
>> &
>> >> >> >>> >> Pelatihan
>> >> >> >>> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 |
>> e-mail:
>> >> >> >>> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>> >> >> >>> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>> >> >> >>> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>> >> >> >>> Version: 9.0.901 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3707 - Release Date:
>> >> >> 06/27/11
>> >> >> >>> 13:34:00
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ------------------------------------
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>> >> >> Pelatihan
>> >> >> > silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>> >> >> > amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>> >> >> > http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>> >> >> > http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ------------------------------------
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>> >> >> Pelatihan
>> >> >> > silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>> >> >> > amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>> >> >> > http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>> >> >> > http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ------------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>> >> Pelatihan
>> >> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>> >> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>> >> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>> Pelatihan
>> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>> >>
>> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data & Pelatihan
>> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
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