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Thursday, 30 June 2011

Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem

Pak Husni,

Bagaimana caranya coding tick.

Contoh utk beli jika open 2 di atas close kemaren: Buy=open > Ref ( c,-1) + 0.02

Tins yg open hanya 1 tick di atas harga close juga keluar signal buy,
bagaimana utk fix it.

Thanks
Irwan

On 6/30/11, Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
> Haha..
>
> Mestinya kan, TIDAK HARUS dapat buruan juga OK.
>
> Kemudian, kalaupun DAPAT, sebaiknya buruan yang BAGUS.
>
> Kalaupun, dapat buruan yang ternyata tidak bagus, BUANG cepat-cepat lah.
>
> Salam.
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Eco Syariah <esyariah@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Mas Wisnu,
>>
>> Waduh... saya sudah mimpi bisa dilakukan... maksud saya mau cari yg
>> akurasinya tinggi. Jadi meskipun baru belajar berburu bisa dapat juga.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ES
>>
>>
>> 2011/6/30 Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sore, Pak Eco.
>>>
>>> Mana ada yang pasti-pasti begitu, Pak? Dari pengalaman, kurang dari 25%
>>> signal preparasi berubah jadi full entry/exit signal. Tujuannya
>>> preparasi,
>>> bersiap2, seperti pemburu yang masang banyak jebakan. Ada yang kena, ada
>>> yang tidak.
>>>
>>> Contoh aktualnya, untuk yang pakai fractal breakout, hari ini sesi 1 ada
>>> banyak signal preparasi, tapi sesi 2 berkurang, dan cuma SATU yang fully
>>> converted ke full entry signal, JSMR.
>>>
>>> Salam.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Eco Syariah <esyariah@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> Dari experience/actual trading... apakah PrepToBuy/Sell aktualnya selalu
>>>> diikuti Buy/Sell... maksud saya akurat 100% ?
>>>> Mungkin ada yg sudah pernah studi tingkat akurasinya atau bagaimana
>>>> caranya kalau kita mau tau tingkat akurasinya ?
>>>> Dan apakah PreptoBuy/Sell pernah gagal atau lazimnya tidak boleh gagal ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> ES
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/6/28 Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kode anda berbeda dengan standard William's Fractal:
>>>>> http://www.amibroker.com/library/detail.php?id=1104
>>>>>
>>>>> UpFractal= ValueWhen(
>>>>> (Ref(H,-2) > Ref(H, -4)) AND
>>>>> (Ref(H,-2) > Ref(H, -3)) AND
>>>>> (Ref(H,-2) > Ref(H, -1)) AND
>>>>> (Ref(H,-2) > H), Ref(H,-2));
>>>>>
>>>>> Tetapi anyway, that's beside the point. Anda bisa pakai kode apa saja,
>>>>> selama logicnya benar, dan well tested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Intinya begini, kode fractal original punya dua bias:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Plottingnya biasanya dibuat begini: Plot(Ref(UpFractal, 2)... dst.
>>>>> Kalau logika entry/exit dibangun diatas line ini, sudah pasti future
>>>>> leak.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Kemudian untuk menghindari confusion di hari ke 5 sejak terbentuk
>>>>> fractal (hari ke 2 sejak top/bottom), jangan gunakan nilai fractal hari
>>>>> ini
>>>>> tapi gunakan Ref(UpFractal, -1);
>>>>>
>>>>> Kalau mau visual confirmation, sekalian saja plottingnya diganti
>>>>> Plot(Ref(UpFractal, -1),... dst.
>>>>>
>>>>> Salam.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Rachmat Guntur <
>>>>> broniscoklat78@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> pagi pak Wisnu, berarti codingnya jadi begini ya pak?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UpFractal= ValueWhen(
>>>>>> (Ref(H,-1) >= Ref(H, -3)) AND
>>>>>> (Ref(H,-1) >= Ref(H, -2)) AND
>>>>>> (Ref(H,-1) >= H), Ref(H,-1));
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks in advance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/28/11, Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > Kelupaan, setelah diplot kasar begitu, selalu gunakan fractal
>>>>>> > kemarin
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> > Ref(UpFractal,-1), sebagai kondisi/qualifier, untuk menghindari
>>>>>> confusion di
>>>>>> > hari ke dua (atau ke-5 dihitung sejak fractal terbentuk).
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sebenarnya menggunakan kondisi kemarin adalah salah satu tips
>>>>>> robustness,
>>>>>> > tidak hanya untuk fractal saja. Almost anything, kecuali HIGH dan
>>>>>> > LOW
>>>>>> today
>>>>>> > saja. Contoh filter liquidity, saya selalu pakai nilai kemarin
>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>> > today.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Saya tidak tahu apakah ini abuse terhadap teorinya fractal.
>>>>>> Sepertinya sih
>>>>>> > iya.. Pak Eko pawangnya disini.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Salam.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Rachmat Guntur
>>>>>> > <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Hah, segampang itu ya pak?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> coba saya liat2 dolo aflnya buaya... mmg ajib n mematikan komennya
>>>>>> >> master yg udah menguasai sgala sisi sistem ini. saya ganti jd
>>>>>> fractal
>>>>>> >> jg ahh resist line saya
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> thanks so much pakkk
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 6/27/11, Wisnu Wijayanta <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> > Tanpa backward shift?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Di plotting fractal, hilangkan angka 2 atau berapapun disitu.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Awas, gambarnya jadi jelek.. Hehe..
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >> > From: Rachmat Guntur <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> > Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:49:29
>>>>>> >> > To: <amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> >> > Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Nahh ini nihh jawabannya, berarti betul mata saya dulu ga salah,
>>>>>> >> > fractalnya berubah bentuk, makanya saya pakai support resist line
>>>>>> >> > biasa, mirip seperti 10DBO yg kemarin dikasi, kl blh diinfo pak
>>>>>> url
>>>>>> >> > coding yg plot tanpa backward shift? thx pak
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > "2. Fractal dalam kode aslinya, forward looking. Jadi kalau buy
>>>>>> based on
>>>>>> >> > original fractal line, pasti ada repaint. Kalau mau pakai
>>>>>> >> > fractal,
>>>>>> plot
>>>>>> >> > tanpa backward shift. Jelek gambarnya sih, tapi aktual."
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > On 6/27/11, Wisnu Wijayanta <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> Seneng saya pada rajin belajar! Bravo!
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Jangan lupa exercise!
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Hari ini saya tidak bisa ke gym, terus iseng, rupanya saya bisa
>>>>>> ganti
>>>>>> >> >> latihan cardio saya pakai naik turun tangga rumah, 3 meteran 120
>>>>>> kali
>>>>>> >> >> bolak-balik, 30 menit. Rupanya my Polar heart monitor, register
>>>>>> 500
>>>>>> >> kcal,
>>>>>> >> >> 145-160 bpm. Lumayan.. :)
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Now, belajar:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> 1. Starting equity val has little to do with result metrics.
>>>>>> Usahakan
>>>>>> >> >> pakai
>>>>>> >> >> angka kapital aktual kita masing2.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> 2. Fractal dalam kode aslinya, forward looking. Jadi kalau buy
>>>>>> based on
>>>>>> >> >> original fractal line, pasti ada repaint. Kalau mau pakai
>>>>>> fractal, plot
>>>>>> >> >> tanpa backward shift. Jelek gambarnya sih, tapi aktual.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> 3. Signal preparasi itu justru valuable di intraday, selama
>>>>>> logicnya
>>>>>> >> >> benar.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Salam belajar!
>>>>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >> >> From: broniscoklat78@gmail.com
>>>>>> >> >> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> >> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:57:51
>>>>>> >> >> To: <amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> >> >> Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Hmmm sepertinya saya hrs belajar fractal nih, byk bgt penganut
>>>>>> fractal
>>>>>> >> >> disini, bahkan mentornya jg, hummmm...
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Jd ada ide integrate fractal di afl saya, ngegantiin resist line
>>>>>> >> >> saya...kan
>>>>>> >> >> sama aja ya... Humm humm....
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Oya, back to topic, coba bsk sy test pak Chis, sygnya hari ini
>>>>>> >> >> ga
>>>>>> >> >> keluar
>>>>>> >> >> sinyal preptobuy sama sekali di afl saya...
>>>>>> >> >> .
>>>>>> >> >> .
>>>>>> >> >> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >> >> From: Christopher Tahir <chris_tahir@ymail.com>
>>>>>> >> >> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> >> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:38:43
>>>>>> >> >> To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com<
>>>>>> amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> >> >> Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Pak RG, kalo kita mengerti esensi dari fraktal maka tdk ada
>>>>>> repaint di
>>>>>> >> >> fractal pak...
>>>>>> >> >> Krn fractal yg di coding itu ga pake future ref shg ga mungkin
>>>>>> repaint,
>>>>>> >> >> repaint bs terjadi kalo kita pake data yg belum selesai sampai
>>>>>> akhir
>>>>>> >> >> masa...
>>>>>> >> >> Misal kita update siang hari ada preptobuy, maka ada kemungkinan
>>>>>> kalo
>>>>>> >> >> kita
>>>>>> >> >> pasang buy itu bakal bs jadi fake buy krn candle hari itu belum
>>>>>> selesai
>>>>>> >> >> pak...
>>>>>> >> >> So saran sy sih kiatin preptobuy wkt tutup marketnya...
>>>>>> >> >> Hehhehe
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Best Regards,
>>>>>> >> >> Christopher Tahir
>>>>>> >> >> Blog: http://ez-stock.blogspot.com
>>>>>> >> >> MSN: chris_tahir@hotmail.com
>>>>>> >> >> YM: chris_tahir@ymail.com
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> PS. Please forgive me for any mis-typing in the e-mail...:)
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> On Jun 27, 2011, at 8:16 PM, broniscoklat78@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> Betul pak, pak Husni pakai fractal ya pak? Itu tergantung
>>>>>> setting
>>>>>> >> >>> fractalnya bgmn, dulu sy pernah kutak2 parameternya, tp pak
>>>>>> Timur skr
>>>>>> >> >>> mlh
>>>>>> >> >>> lbh canggih lagi, param fractalnya bisa lgsg diganti di window
>>>>>> >> >>> parameter,
>>>>>> >> >>> ga usah manual ke afl.
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Sepertinya semua trend follower sdh harus masuk ke BMTR hari
>>>>>> >> >>> ini
>>>>>> pak,
>>>>>> >> >>> karena dia sdh break 21 days Highnya. Walau closenya ternyata
>>>>>> masuk lg
>>>>>> >> >>> dibawah resist.
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Cuma itu pak, sy lg kesulitan kehilangan preptobuy saya :(, hr
>>>>>> ini
>>>>>> >> malah
>>>>>> >> >>> buynya si BMTR hilang.... Harusnya minimal msh ada preptobuy
>>>>>> skr...
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Saya kawatirnya sih future leak or barpaint pak, tp sdh sy
>>>>>> pelototin
>>>>>> >> >>> ga
>>>>>> >> >>> sih. Pak Husni pernah perhatiin ga pak kl fractal jg bisa
>>>>>> berubah loh
>>>>>> >> :)
>>>>>> >> >>> ga tau jg sih kl pak Husni sdh dpt update dr pak Timur shg sdh
>>>>>> >> >>> diperbaiki
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Thx
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> From: "Husni" <husni.gumilang@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> >>> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> >>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:58:49 +0700
>>>>>> >> >>> To: <amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> >> >>> ReplyTo: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> >>> Subject: RE: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Kalau di tempat saya , tgl 24 BMTR dapat PrepToBuy
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> <image002.png>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Dan hari ini dapat BUY dgn ENTRY PRICE yg sama di 860
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> <image003.png>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Tapi saya gak masuk, karena tadi masih di perjalanan pulang
>>>>>> >> >>> dari
>>>>>> >> >>> vacation
>>>>>> >> >>> …he he he
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Salam belajar,
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Husni
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> From: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> >>> [mailto:amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rachmat
>>>>>> Guntur
>>>>>> >> >>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:35 PM
>>>>>> >> >>> To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Komunitas AmiBroker] PrepToBuy problem
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Malam pak Wisnu,
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> sayangnya kasusnya ga gitu pak, kasusnya hari ini di BMTR,
>>>>>> adxnya sdh
>>>>>> >> >>> naik dari bbr hari yg lalu & pdi mdi sdh golden cross dr bbrp
>>>>>> hari
>>>>>> >> >>> lalu,
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> nahh indikator satunya, RSI, baru golden cross hari ini pak,
>>>>>> tapi
>>>>>> >> >>> begitu indi ini goldencross sinyal preptobuynya malah hilang...
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> dulu buaya lucunya pak Timur beberapa kali sy lihat dgn mata
>>>>>> sendiri
>>>>>> >> >>> jg berubah bentuk fractal atasnya, makanya saya liat ada bbrp
>>>>>> >> >>> yg
>>>>>> lolos
>>>>>> >> >>> ga keluar sinyal buynya walau breakout. tapi saya ga punya
>>>>>> >> >>> buaya
>>>>>> lucu
>>>>>> >> >>> pak Timur yg terbaru, jadi saya blm tau masalah itu masih ada
>>>>>> ga, dan
>>>>>> >> >>> pemecahannya apa?
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> saya curiga masalahnya di kondisi buy sy pak, selain jkse
>>>>>> uptrend,
>>>>>> >> >>> saya jg ada 2 kondisi buy lain, dan sepertinya ini yg bikin
>>>>>> preptobuy
>>>>>> >> >>> ngilang. jalan yg saya tempuh sekarang, saya hilangkan dulu deh
>>>>>> >> >>> kondisi buy saya selain jkse uptrend.
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Sistem saya mmg jadinya fragile lagi begitu dihadapkan ke whole
>>>>>> >> >>> population jkse, tapi gpp deh, yg penting kan sistemnya ga cuma
>>>>>> bagus
>>>>>> >> >>> di report tapi bener2 bisa dipake real.
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> CAR/MDDnya turun, tp gpp dahh, yg penting max drawdownnya sy
>>>>>> masih
>>>>>> >> >>> bisa terima n annual returnnya masih bagus.
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> jadi gini pak, ini hipotesa saya, bsk waktu go live coba saya
>>>>>> cek lagi
>>>>>> >> :
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> kondisibuy = kondisi1 AND kondisi2 AND kondisi3;
>>>>>> >> >>> kondisiprep = kondisi1 AND (kondisi2 OR kondisi3);
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> preptobuy = (buy - bbrp tick) AND kondisiprep;
>>>>>> >> >>> buy = buy AND kondisibuy;
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> ada saran pak Wisnu & yg lainnya?
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> oya, saya jalan2 ke negara tetangga, ternyata Quantitative mrk
>>>>>> >> >>> berkembang bgt, kali2 ada yg jd keluar idenya mengembangkan
>>>>>> sistem apa
>>>>>> >> >>> utk QTS, ini saya kasi link workshop mrk, workshop mrk berhari2
>>>>>> dan
>>>>>> >> >>> ada bagian yg khusus membahas contoh2 sistem QTS ini paks
>>>>>> >> >>> dari daftar isinya saja spertinya sdh bisa dibayangin aflnya
>>>>>> seperti
>>>>>> >> >>> apa, tapi cape ahh develop afl baru... sy mau praktek saja
>>>>>> skr...
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> ini linknya :
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> http://www.ntusgxcfe.ntu.edu.sg/ATC-TSD/ATC-TSD1.html
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> thanks
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> On 6/27/11, Wisnu Mobile <wisnu.working@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>> > Kemungkinannya bisa banyak sekali, tetapi barangkali ini..
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > Kalau kita sedang trendfollowing, sistem akan sering ketemu
>>>>>> >> >>> > secondary-tertiary buy points dan seterusnya. Titik2 ini
>>>>>> perfectly
>>>>>> >> >>> > MATCH
>>>>>> >> >>> > dengan buy condition/logic kita.
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > Tetapi:
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > 1. Standard backtest HANYA akan menggunakan hanya BUY signal
>>>>>> yang
>>>>>> >> >>> > pertama,
>>>>>> >> >>> > sebagai entry point sesuai dengan aturan max open position,
>>>>>> position
>>>>>> >> >>> > size,
>>>>>> >> >>> > dan position score.
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > 2. Apalagi ditambah dengan EXcess REMoval.
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > Jadi:
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > Kesalahan yang umum ditemui, signal preparasi dibuat
>>>>>> sederhana,
>>>>>> >> >>> > memberi
>>>>>> >> >>> > tahu
>>>>>> >> >>> > kita ketika mendekati buy points, tetapi TIDAK
>>>>>> MEMPERTIMBANGKAN,
>>>>>> >> >>> > apakah
>>>>>> >> >>> > sudah ada buy point sebelumnya atau tidak - yang masih aktif,
>>>>>> belum
>>>>>> >> >>> > SELL.
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > Sehingga bisa kejadiannya bisa begini, signal preparasi
>>>>>> menunjukkan
>>>>>> >> >>> > kita
>>>>>> >> >>> > buy
>>>>>> >> >>> > point baru (tetapi sistem sudah ada buy point aktif
>>>>>> sebelumnya).
>>>>>> >> >>> > Ketika
>>>>>> >> >>> > harga melewati buy price point, signal preparasi HILANG,
>>>>>> tetapi
>>>>>> >> >>> > TIDAK
>>>>>> >> >>> > DIGANTIKAN oleh BUY. Karena sistem masih mencatat, MESTINYA
>>>>>> sudah IN
>>>>>> >> >>> > POSITION jauh-jauh hari sebelumnya di buy point sebelumnya.
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > Solusi:
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > 1. Konsep. Secara sistem apa yang anda inginkan? Anda ingin
>>>>>> masuk di
>>>>>> >> >>> > setiap
>>>>>> >> >>> > buy points? Kalau ya, remove EXREM, dan gunakan
>>>>>> SetBacktestMode(
>>>>>> >> >>> > backtestRegularRaw ); - silahkan dibaca definisinya. Intinya
>>>>>> kali
>>>>>> >> >>> > ini
>>>>>> >> >>> > backtest akan masuk DISETIAP buy points, selama semua aturan
>>>>>> >> >>> > terpenuhi.
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > 2. Kalau anda hanya ingin masuk SEKALI di awal (less hectic),
>>>>>> >> >>> > gunakan
>>>>>> >> >>> > tambahan line: PrepToBuy=ExRem(PrepToBuy,Sell); - artinya
>>>>>> signal
>>>>>> >> >>> > preparasi,
>>>>>> >> >>> > hanya akan AKTIF satu kali. Ketemu SELL, baru aktif lagi,
>>>>>> sekali.
>>>>>> >> >>> > Begitu
>>>>>> >> >>> > seterusnya. PrepToBuy nya harus punya kondisi yang persis
>>>>>> >> >>> > sama
>>>>>> >> >>> > dengan
>>>>>> >> >>> > BUY -
>>>>>> >> >>> > cuma kurang beberapa tick, supaya tidak mengundang masalah
>>>>>> baru
>>>>>> >> (misal
>>>>>> >> >>> > muncul PrepToBuy tapi di market buruk yang tidak akan
>>>>>> terkonversi
>>>>>> >> jadi
>>>>>> >> >>> > BUY
>>>>>> >> >>> > anyway, disini jadi masalah).
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > Salam belajar.
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Rachmat Guntur
>>>>>> >> >>> > <broniscoklat78@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>> >> Halo paks,
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> saya baru mengalami delicate problem nih, penyelesaian
>>>>>> praktisnya
>>>>>> >> >>> >> bgmn
>>>>>> >> >>> >> ya?
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> kemarin malam saya otomatic order di preptobuy, kemudian
>>>>>> >> >>> >> hari
>>>>>> ini
>>>>>> >> >>> >> saya
>>>>>> >> >>> >> baru liat preptobuy saya ngilang, sampai jam 11, masih ada
>>>>>> >> tulisannya
>>>>>> >> >>> >> preptobuy di explorer saya, jadi saya tinggal pergi kerja.
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> afterlunch saya cek di bb, harga benar naik, jadi seharusnya
>>>>>> >> >>> >> kondisi
>>>>>> >> >>> >> preptobuy saya terpenuhi jadi buy.
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> begitu saya pulang, saya cek, boro2 jadi buy, preptobuy nya
>>>>>> aja
>>>>>> >> >>> >> ngilang dari explorer saya, pdhl kondisinya terpenuhi, tapi
>>>>>> seperti
>>>>>> >> >>> >> terskip.
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> Maksud saya ter skip, di buy saya pakai campuran 2 kondisi
>>>>>> >> indikator,
>>>>>> >> >>> >> bila indikator A sdh golden cross, indikator B baru
>>>>>> >> >>> >> mendekat,
>>>>>> maka
>>>>>> >> >>> >> preptobuy, bila salah satu sdh goldencross bbrp bar lalu,sdg
>>>>>> >> >>> >> satunya
>>>>>> >> >>> >> baru goldencross, maka buy keluar hari ini, tapi sepertinya
>>>>>> >> amibroker
>>>>>> >> >>> >> kadang melihatnya begitu indikator kedua goldencross hari
>>>>>> ini, buy
>>>>>> >> >>> >> nya
>>>>>> >> >>> >> seharusnya kemarin, tapi karena ga bar painting, sinyal buy
>>>>>> nya ter
>>>>>> >> >>> >> skip....
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> di Fractal saya jg sempat melihat hal yg sama, bentuk
>>>>>> >> >>> >> fractal
>>>>>> >> atasnya
>>>>>> >> >>> >> berubah, makanya sekadang saya liat walau sdh fractal break
>>>>>> tapi
>>>>>> >> >>> >> sinyal buy ga keluar, karena bentuk fractal berubah, sinyal
>>>>>> buynya
>>>>>> >> >>> >> malah sdh harus keluar dr bbrp bar lalu,
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> smoga yg saya tulis kebayang....
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> itu fix problemnya gmana ya pak?
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> thanks in advance
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> On 6/27/11, Rachmat Guntur <broniscoklat78@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>> >> > Wahh makasih pak Wisnu buat bocorannya :)
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >>> >> > nanti coba saya terapkan & backtest
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >>> >> > skr lagi coba nyetir sistem saya dulu nih pak, market lagi
>>>>>> >> pullback
>>>>>> >> >>> >> > ya
>>>>>> >> >>> >> btw
>>>>>> >> >>> >> > :(
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >>> >> > On 6/27/11, Wisnu Wijayanta <wisnu.working@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Perlu disesuaikan antara pilihan strategi dengan
>>>>>> ekspektasi.
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Untuk riding, yang anda bilang high cholesterol stocks,
>>>>>> sudah
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> pernah
>>>>>> >> >>> >> saya
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> katakan cuma bisa ditangkap dengan dua cara, beli mahal
>>>>>> atau
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> beli
>>>>>> >> >>> >> bandar.
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Setelah itu, seluruh scoring profile harus trade into the
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> strength,
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> contohnya ROC.
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Tuh, bocoran lagi.. :)
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Salam.
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> From: broniscoklat78@gmail.com
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Sender: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:54:09
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> To: AmiBroker Milist<amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Reply-To: amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Subject: [Komunitas AmiBroker] Re: CONFIRMATION - QTS
>>>>>> WORKSHOP
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> BATCH
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> IV
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Mantabb nihh workshopnya
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Always pick up something new & banyak bocoran disana sini
>>>>>> kl
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> teliti
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> :p
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> n
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> bikin begadang ulik2 hasil backtest n optimasi. Apalg
>>>>>> dioleh2in
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> data
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> yahoo
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> yg sdh cakep dr pak Dendo :D
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Kali ini yg ikut workshop jg unik2. Dpt insight dr dunia
>>>>>> trader
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> gambler
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> sgala n ktemu jagoan coding afl, pulang2 nambah
>>>>>> linregslope afl.
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Thx
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> pak
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Chris :)
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Pak Wisnu, kl ada QTS degree 2 yg bahas jeroan trading
>>>>>> sistem
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> scr
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> lbh
>>>>>> >> >>> >> dlm
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> lagi, sy booking seatnya 1 ya, msh blm ketemu qualifier
>>>>>> utk
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> eliminate
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> saham2
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> yg candlenya panjang2 gajebo dlm sehari nihh pak, ituu
>>>>>> saham
>>>>>> >> penuh
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> kolestrol... :(
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Begitu ditabrakin ke all populasi ihsg, afl saya
>>>>>> %win:%lossnya
>>>>>> >> msh
>>>>>> >> >>> >> stabil
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> tapi CAR/MDDnya drop jadi 1...any hints pak? :)
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Thx
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> From: Dendo <dendo@integrity.co.id>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:29:52
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> To: AmiBroker Milist<amibroker-4-bei@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Subject: CONFIRMATION - QTS WORKSHOP BATCH IV
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Halo,
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Terimakasih kepada teman-teman yang sudah melakukan
>>>>>> pendaftaran
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> *QTS
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Workshop Batch ke IV*.
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Dengan ini diberitahukan**pelatihan akan dilaksanakan di:
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> *HOTEL AKMANI*
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> *Jl. KH. Wahid Hasyim 91 Jakarta*
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> *(Dekat Sarinah Thamrin)*
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> *Ruang : TUSCANY*
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> *Lantai : Mezzanine (M)*
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> *Waktu: 09:30 s.d 17:00*
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Dibawah ini saya kirimkan kembali peta HOTEL AKMANI.
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Terimakasih atas perhatiannya. Sampai bertemu besok.
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Salam, Dendo
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> M: 08159304868, BB: 234C7257, E:
>>>>>> amibrokerfreak@yahoo.co.id
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday
>>>>>> Data &
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Pelatihan
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 |
>>>>>> e-mail:
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday
>>>>>> Data &
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Pelatihan
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 |
>>>>>> e-mail:
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday
>>>>>> Data &
>>>>>> >> >>> >> Pelatihan
>>>>>> >> >>> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 |
>>>>>> e-mail:
>>>>>> >> >>> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>>>>> >> >>> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>>>>>> >> >>> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>>> >> >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>>> >> >>> Version: 9.0.901 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3707 - Release Date:
>>>>>> >> 06/27/11
>>>>>> >> >>> 13:34:00
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>>>>>> >> Pelatihan
>>>>>> >> > silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>>>>>> >> > amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>>>>> >> > http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>>>>>> >> > http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > ------------------------------------
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>>>>>> >> Pelatihan
>>>>>> >> > silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>>>>>> >> > amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>>>>> >> > http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>>>>>> >> > http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> ------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>>>>>> Pelatihan
>>>>>> >> silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 | e-mail:
>>>>>> >> amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>>>>> >> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>>>>>> >> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
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>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apabila membutuhkan software AmiBroker, Realtime Intraday Data &
>>>>>> Pelatihan silahkan kontak : Dendo Valentino | Cell : 08159304868 |
>>>>>> e-mail: amibrokerfreak{at}yahoo.co.id | YM id : dendov |
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/dendo.amibrokerfreak |
>>>>>> http://www.amibroker-4-bei.org
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>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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